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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 5 2016, 11:24 AM (672 Views) | |
| Billa | Mar 5 2016, 11:24 AM Post #1 |
Thala na Gethu!
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How much do you value your health? Health is complete physical, emotional, mental & social well-being. Before going any deeper, do anyone of you know whats HFCS (High Fructose Corn Syrup), trans fat, saturated fats & overall direction European & Asian countries are headed (with US & UK citizens being most obese, while Indian & Chinese citizens suffering highest prevalence of diabetis)? Thoughts? |
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| + Pelador | Mar 5 2016, 02:30 PM Post #2 |
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I value my health and try to limit how much I eat since I generally eat crap. If I'm not going to eat good food then I can at least limit how much rubbish I put inside me. Transfat is highly frowned upon in this country and rarely used. I think high fructose corn syrup is similar. Our super markets generally show a lot of nutritional information on the packaging and like to brag about how healthy their products are. Basically there's a big emphasis on healthy eating here. Thing is, the super markets being responsible is only a part of the solution to growing obesity. I think people need to be more educated and more responsible about eating. Especially when it comes to feeding their children. I can't stand parents who over feed or give their children rubbish all the time. Mental health care in this country is simply not good enough and even our tyrannical leader David Cameron has acknowledged this. Of course he's a total hypocrite since he was the one who cut all the funding for it in the first place. We need it to be better implemented with the NHS. Ideally I'd like everyone to have their own psychiatrist like they do GPs. Of course that's not possible due to the specialised nature of psychiatry. |
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| Dankness Lava | Mar 5 2016, 02:52 PM Post #3 |
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I try to continuously improve my overall health. I'm eating a lot better now than I did a few years ago. Less fast food and eating out in general, more veggies and natural meats. And I try to make sure I'm not depressed and mentally worn out so much. |
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| Billa | Mar 5 2016, 03:06 PM Post #4 |
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Its said Red Meats (beef, pork, lamb) have large amounts of saturated fats (linked cardiovascular diseases as heart disease, arthritis, high BP & increase in LDL or commonly known as bad cholesterols). Fast foods are loaded with trans fats & HFCS. French fries, frozen pizza, burgers, etc Obesity is global epidemic with 2/3 Americans termed as obese. Its said an American consumes over 50 pounds of HFCS per year. To say nothing about LDL, or bad cholesterol rise which results in increased risk of intra-abdominal fat (fat deposition in organ such as liver or sometimes belly fat). |
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Mar 5 2016, 06:27 PM Post #5 |
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I value my health immensely. I treat my body like a temple to Veles. While food is definitely a factor in obesity, it's not the only factor either. You can still eat large quantities of health foods and still get fat. You need exercise as well. |
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| Mihawk | Mar 5 2016, 08:46 PM Post #6 |
 
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1. That sentence makes no sense 2. It's bullcrap |
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| * Sousen Ichimonji | Mar 6 2016, 12:14 AM Post #7 |
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I consider my health very important, but I a) don't exercise much and b) eat like a giant baby with money. I kept a good, steady weight for a few years after losing a lot of weight after high school, but I've been putting weight on recently and started living better in response. It's hard when you've been neglecting exercise for a long time though. |
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| Billa | Mar 6 2016, 12:54 AM Post #8 |
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When your against a post or point, have at least the decency to counter/argue the point academically instead of tossing baseless words as "makes no sense" & "bullcrap" backed by even more baseless evidence or proof from your side WHO & AHA has repeatedly stressed the point of 2 third of Americans being obese & the numbers are expected to shoot up by 2030. Obesity is not just about being thin or lean, without belly fat. High BMI & risk factors of non-communicable diseases-high bloof pressure, diabetic, heart disease & stroke are directly related to obesity, which according to WHO report says over 60% of Americans suffer from diabetic (18 & above) Recent study concluded Hungary to be fattest nation in the world, with US coming up 2nd place Medditeranean countries as Spain, Italy, Portugal have noticably less than 10% of obesity (thx to their diet, strict governmental orders concerning bans of trans fat exceeding 2g & rejecting the use of HFCS to large extent) On worldwide basis, Malaysia have been classified as fattest nation in SouthEast Asian by recent poll conducted by Lancer in 2014/15 which states over 45% of male & 43% of female are obese, especially so among Malay & Indian residents US still remains undisputed No 1 consumer of HFCS with over 70% of daily products (heavily packaged & processed) being consumed recklessly. The high calorie intake, very sedentary lifestyle is the main culprit. Now, HFCS is potent killer, along the lines of Ajinomoto (in Maggie), trans fats which are cheaper to produce, thx to subsidies, yet does irrepairable damage to human health. Namely: 1. Increases diabetic, blood pressure & bad-cholesterol/LDL level in body 2. Obesity induced effects such as fatty liver disease, increased risk of heart attack, stroke, aneurysm of blood vessels, stroke & death Expecting more bullcrap counter points from you |
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| Mihawk | Mar 6 2016, 01:17 AM Post #9 |
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I take it English isn't your first language? You said "2/3 Americans termed as obese.". That is bullcrap. Overweight and obese are two different things with completely different health implications. It's only 2/3s if you're counting both overweight and obesity. Obesity is half of that at 1/3. Your sentence says "Obesity is global epidemic with 2/3 Americans termed as obese.". Your sentence implicitly says that America is the world. |
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| + Pelador | Mar 6 2016, 01:46 AM Post #10 |
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Regardless of the syntax used, you cannot deny that the USA has a serious problem when it comes to healthy eating. Now whereas in this country I put most of the blame on people just not caring or knowing enough, in the US's case I think it's fair to blame a lot of the issues on food manufacturers. There aren't enough regulations on what can be put into food, there isn't enough nutritional information on packaging and there's no drive to promote healthier products. Compared to here where even the obviously s***ty food claims to have less fat, salt or sugar. |
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| Mihawk | Mar 6 2016, 01:52 AM Post #11 |
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Oh I know that. I think it has more to do with culture than anything else. Nutella was sued for millions just for saying their chocolate was healthy. Our nutrition labels are on par or better than most countries. The change needs to come from culture not from the government. |
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Mar 6 2016, 02:06 AM Post #12 |
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The problem I see really is how cheap and readily available unhealthy food is compared to healthy food. You can get 12 Tacos at Taco bell for $10, or you can get 24 pieces of fried chicken for $12 at KFC. You can go to the grocery store and get just 6oz of lean beef or chicken breast for $12. The world today is all instant gratification and the average person doesn't want to make a meal themselves, so they settle for unhealthy alternatives because they are the most cost and time efficient. Really if people want to throw away their health and be disgusting blobs, that's on them. The government shouldn't pay people disability because they're too fat to work, nor should they intervene and force fitness and/or healthy eating. It should be up to the individual if they want to be fat or fit. |
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| + Pelador | Mar 6 2016, 02:29 AM Post #13 |
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I agree about the government needing to be tough on fat people. It's not a disease or a syndrome to be fat, it's a life style choice and people shouldn't be compensated because of it. I wish I knew of a possible solution to make healthier food cheaper other than government subsidies for its producers. It is too expensive compared to less quality products. Children need to be educated by their parents more about healthier eating and exercise as well. Plus parents should be stricter about making their children eat less crap. If you get them whilst they are young then it becomes habit. Having said all that, American food companies get away with so much that they'd never be able to do in Europe. I don't think I've ever seen a product that uses artificial colours and flavourings. Everything here claims to use natural ingredients. The USA should follow that example. And also they need to put less sugar in everything. I've looked at the packaging of American products and the levels are too high. |
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Mar 6 2016, 02:39 AM Post #14 |
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Most obese children have obese parents themselves so having the parents deal would be not an ideal solution. Obesity is not hereditary, but gluttony and laziness is a learned behavior. Not only does American and European governments reward obesity and laziness, society as a whole promotes it with the whole "fat acceptance" movement that is going on. Being fat is no longer blamed on poor life choices, but through genetics and through hereditary inheritance and that simply isn't true. Having obese family means you're predisposed to sloth and gluttony but it doesn't mean you can't eat healthy and exercise. I will admit there are some very rare diseases and conditions out there like Elephantitis that people don't have control over, but an overactive thyroid or "heart problems" causing them to not be able to exercise are not legitimate excuses for being lazy. |
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| Mihawk | Mar 6 2016, 02:51 AM Post #15 |
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The UK is not that different from the US, Pelador. I'm not sure what you're talking about. http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/File:Proportion_of_women_who_were_overweight_or_obese,_2008_or_nearest_year_(%25)_Health2015.png http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/File:Proportion_of_men_who_were_overweight_or_obese,_2008_or_nearest_year_(%25)_Health2015.png edit: How is every single thread going into political discussions lately? lol Edited by Mihawk, Mar 6 2016, 02:53 AM.
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